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Is the concept of degree, appearing in “Mastering Elliott Wave”, and its frontier value of 1/3, a good rule to differentiate smaller-degree waves from larger-degree waves?

ANSWER:

This question was sent in by Victror Zorrero (location unknown). Its a very important question regarding a concept few orthodox EW analysts address and is a key reason most orthodox EW wave counts and forecasts eventually prove to be wrong.

The simple answer is YES, the “Rule of Similarity and Balance” (which describes the 1/3 or 3x’s relationship required between same degree waves) is an essential technique for differentiating smaller from larger degree wave patterns. You can read more about this NEoWave Rule on page 4-3 of Mastering Elliott Wave. Any wave count that breaks the “Rule of Similarity and Balance” is destine to fail.

پرسش و پاسخ با گلن نیلی-74

When a market is forming a significant top, would it be accurate to say that, while Elliott rules will be respected, guildlines with�fall by the wayside?

ANSWER:

This question was sent in by Eric Noel, a great customer in Ontario, Canada. It is a very important question that touches on issues I’ve raised lately in more than one NEoWave Forecasting and Trading service.

An integral part of NEoWave theory is that large-degree pattern conclusions are associated with unusual behavior. At every major high or low I can remember for the last 25 years, either a new pattern variation emerged or a completely new wave formation developed. 

For example, the high in 1987 produced the first 3rd Extension Terminal I had ever seen. NEoWave Diametric formations began to occur in the S&P around 1995, right as the 8-year Contracting Triangle was coming to an end. The stock market high in 2000 ended with a 5th Failure Terminal, which (if memory serves me correct) was the first I had ever witnessed. 

Currently, in T-Notes (where a decade-long, Expanding Triangle may be ending) we can see an upward-drifting, Neutral Triangle. The (e)-wave of that pattern is drifting in the opposite direction, breaking the (b)-(d) trendline BEFORE it has ended. Something I’ve never seen before. The same phenomenon appears to be happening in Gold’s 1-year Contracting Triangle where wave-(e) is drifting outside the b-d channel before its conclusion. 

So, to answer Eric’s question, while all Elliott and NEoWave pattern construction rules must be met at all times, unusual or never-before-seen types of behavior occur at major pattern conclusions. Such new behavior does not negate or diminish prior rules and guidelines, but simply ADDS a “branch” to the NEoWave “logic tree.” This ability to adapt and evolve is what separates NEoWave from Elliott Wave and is the reason NEoWave produces more reliable, accurate and stable wave counts than orthodox Elliott Wave.

پرسش و پاسخ با گلن نیلی-73

Do you think options are a reasonable way to trade using your service?

ANSWER:

This question was sent in by George Schluger of New Jersey. Its an important question, especially for those new to the business. 

What entices neophytes to the options markets is the promise of “limited loss and unlimited potential” – similar to what Las Vegas sells you when playing slot machines. They say “Bet a dollar to make $1,000,000!” Sounds great, but what are the odds? In Vegas they are beyond miniscule. Obviously, someone must pull the lever at least 1 million times before the house has enough money to pay the 1 million dollars. Plus, the house must factor in the costs of maintaining the machine, the employees running the place, overhead of the physical space, plus they must still make a profit. As a result, the lever may need to be pulled 2 million times or more for each $1 million paid out. Whatever it is, the odds are not only NOT in your favor, they basically don’t exist. 

Trading options may have better odds than a million-dolloar Vegas slot machine, but they aren’t very good. In my entire career, I have never known anyone who consistently made money trading options. My personal experience has not been pleasant. 

When trading stock, typically the money wagered is all you can lose, so emotions are kept in check. Unless the company goes bankrupt, shares do not expire, so you can hold the stock as long as you want. As a result, your timing may not be great and your entry price may not be good, but with patience, inflation and improving technology, the chances are good those shares will be worth more than you paid for them at some point in the future. You certainly can’t say that about futures and options trading. Consequently, stock trading is one of the least difficult games Wall Street has to offer. 

When trading futures, the element of leverage dramatically alters the landscape – every few points can have a significant impact on total account equity, especially for the typical trader who is under-capitalized. There is also the element of expiring contracts and potential delivery of a commodity that eventually forces all futures traders out of their original position, forcing them to take a profit or loss at or before expiration. The factors associated with Futures trading makes timing, entry and starting capital important considerations, increasing the complexity of the success equation. 

What makes options trading even more difficult? On top of all the elements you must master for Futures trading, options incorporate the additional factors of premium decay and volatility. Unless you are Shorting options (which virtually no one new to the business does), you need to enter when the markets are slow and premiums are low. Your must enter immediately before a large advance or decline ensues, so your timing must be nearly perfect. In addition, you must pick the right option (a Put or a Call), the right contract month (Jan., Feb. Mar., etc.), the right strike price (400, 500, etc.) and you will probably have to deal with issues of liquidity. In other words, you need to be right about everything – nearly perfect entry, perfect timing, right contract, right strike price, etc. That not only makes options trading the most difficult game it town, it makes it a nearly impossible game to win. 

For all the above reasons, I do not recommend options trading for anyone with less than 10 years trading/investment experience. Even then, options should be used only on the rarest of occasions. If you are a professional who writes (shorts) options, the rules are very different and much of what I have said above does not apply.

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If you are counting waves on an hourly timeframe, how many bars at most should you ideally have in view?

ANSWER:

This is a “complexity related” question sent in by a client in South Africa. Ideally, all charts used for forecasting are constructed with cash data and plotted in NEoWave fashion (i.e., with the high and low in the order they occurred). Outside of the stock market, most bar charts are futures based or have expiration dates (i.e., they are not cash based). If a bar chart is all you have to work with, the time frame you are following (whether hourly, daily, weekly, etc.) is not what determines the number of bars that should be visible. As always, the focus should be on the complexity of the chart (i.e., the number of monowaves visible). 

When working with a high/low NEoWave chart, the ideal number of monowaves visible should be about 44. To see 44 monowaves on a NEoWave chart requires from 22 to 33 groups of high/low data (i.e., the highs and lows extracted from 22-33 bars). When you use bars instead of a NEoWave plot, the complexity of the chart is cut in half (since the high and low occupy the same space). Therefore, to create the same complexity on a bar chart as on a NEoWave chart, you need twice as many bars. Consequently, instead of needing 22 to 33 bars, you need about 44 to 66 bars of data visible to do accurate wave analysis on a bar chart.

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While plotting highs/lows, only price is used, but the time difference between them is not. Do you think it is of no use when and at what time highs/lows occurred. And if you think they are useful, please tell us how it can be used to detect the structure of monowaves?

ANSWER:

This question was sent in by Pradeep Mehta of India. I’m surprised this is the first time I have received this question. It brings up an issue that perplexed me the first few years of my career. 

During the course of a day (or any time frame viewed on a bar chart), the high and low seen could have happened in the first minute, the last minute, the first hour, the last hour, mid day or thousands of other possibilities. In essence, Pradeep is asking why we plot the high and low of a day (or any time frame) as if they occurred exactly the same time apart. 

I wrestled with this idea when I began studying wave theory and assumed plotting the high and low of a day at the exact time they occurred would work better than spacing them at equal distances apart. Keep in mind, when you use bar charts (instead of NEoWave charts) to do wave analysis, you are making a far graver mistake – you are assuming the impossible, that the high and low of a particular day occurred simultaneously! 

After years of working with various forms of plotting (bar charts, average of the high and low, close-only, accurate time plotting like that mentioned above and simply plotting the high and low equally distanced apart), I found the last option far superior to the others. It is not clear to me why more accurate time-based plots do not work better, but they don’t, so I gave them up 20 years ago. NEoWave rules and guidelines work best when the highest high and lowest low of any repetitive time frame are plotted in the order they occurred and spaced at equal distance from each other.

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Why is the NEoWave TRADING service separate from the NEoWave FORECASTING service. Isn’t the purpose of both to successfully trade markets?

ANSWER:

This is one of the most important questions ever asked on this forum, sent in anonymously from an email address most likely located in the United States. 

For the first 15 years of my career, when my sole focus was super-detailed, accurate wave analysis, the WaveWatch service did not separate trading advice from wave analysis. The complex nature of that service prompted many customers to request I simplify all the “wave talk” and focus on “bottom line” trading tactics. At the same time, my more successful, professional customers were asking I provide my unique, NEoWave analysis without all the trading details to distract them from their own methodology. That is when I decided to separate NEoWave into two, distinct services – Trading advice and Chart analysis (Forecasting) – which allowed me to address the needs of two, unique market participant categories. 

In just the last 5 years, I realized the division of my service into two parts was the beginning of a paradigm shift in my thinking and approach to markets. It was slowly becoming clear to me that accurate market analysis had virtually no relation to successful trading and vice versa. That profound realization is the nucleus of what I’m confident will become a revolution in the field of technical analysis – NEELY RIVER THEORY. 

In 1990, with the introduction of MASTERING ELLIOTT WAVE, I presented what eventually came to be known as NEoWave – a new, logical foundation for the field of wave analysis and forecasting, allowing for more objective, scientific and accurate results. Similar to what NEoWave did for the field of wave analysis, NEELY RIVER THEORY will do in the realm of real-time trading. It presents the first, logical, scientific, objective, step-by-step, non-forecasting, non-mathematical approach to trading and investing ever devised.