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What is your view on pyramiding (i.e., adding to successful trades)?

ANSWER:

The concept of a pyramiding, while great in theory, rarely works well in practice. First, there is the inclination to add to a position after a large gain. Why? A sizeable gain convinces you “I was right” about the past so I’m probably going to be “right” about the future, which is when greed kicks in. You say to yourself, “The market did exactly what I thought, so my scenario is on track. I could make so much more money if I doubled my position.” With a significant, forecasting success under your belt, along with plenty of buffer to protect your original position from loss, plus a sizeable dose of ego and greed, there is a strong human tendency to focus on how much you might make instead of what could go wrong. 

In the real-world, when a market has advanced in your favor, and you add to you position, your new “breakeven” point advances halfway between the two entries (assuming the same position size at both points). After pyramiding, the market need only retrace 50% (between your first and second entry) to reduce your profit to zero. Since emotions tend to run highest at market peaks and troughs, there is a strong propensity to add to a position when your profit is greatest (i.e., at a market peak), which creates the likelihood of a sizeable reaction (i.e., the 50% retracement needed to reduce your gain to zero). 

When you see a large profit drop to zero, it can be emotional and demoralizing. As the market drops below breakeven, with your position twice its original size, you will lose money twice as fast as previously gained. That is the point when panic typically sets in and most exit. Even if you were eventually right about the market’s trend, the common result of pyramiding (averaging up) is that your position is stopped out at breakeven or worse. Pyramiding can have far more devastating consequences if your additional positions are larger in size than your original.

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What is the MOAT Index (you wrote about it recently in your Trading Service)?

ANSWER:

After searching all, past “Questions of the Week,” I was amazed to discover no one had asked this before; so, I guess it is time to explain my unique M.O.A.T. Index. First, the acronym stands for “Multiple Order Accumulation Tabulator.” MOAT can function as a trend indicator, but is most reliable when providing overbought or oversold signals (it was MOAT that gave me the courage to Short Dec. Gold at $1,371 on October 18, 2010 (so far, our entry is two days after Gold’s all-time high). Unlike NEoWave, MOAT is completely mathematical and mechanical. I pay the most attention to MOAT when wave structure is unclear (i.e., near the center of large, complex formations).

Using an extensive array of data derived from multiple barchart time-frames, MOAT provides – in advance of a trading period – a “map” of where the majority of buy and sell orders are actively congregating. When it comes to markets, prices gravitate toward large, fairly equal concentrations zones of buy and sell orders. By knowing the location of those zones, in advance, MOAT provides (on rare occasions) valuable overbought and oversold signals. Unlike NEoWave and Elliott Wave, the MOAT index does not indicate how a market will move up or down and it doesn’t provide signals in advance of a top or bottom – it simply reacts to current circumstances, telling me when an overbought or oversold condition exists in real-time. 

To better explain this concept, let’s define market “zones” as a price region containing a fairly large number of nearly-equal buy and sell orders. If a market is trading in zone A, for it to move to zone B, it must advance or decline, filling orders along the way. By definition, the region between zones A and B will contain fewer buy and sell orders, which allows the market to maneuver more quickly through those regions. The more lopsided the order flow (e.g., heavy buying with limited selling) the faster it can reach zone B. Once the market reaches zone B, prices will again start to oscillate for an extended period. Eventually, volume dries up in zone B, imbalance occurs as a result, which then starts the market’s push toward the next order concentration zone. These order concentration zones are what MOAT tabulates and plots, which allows me insight into whether a market is overbought, oversold or (less-frequently) in a balanced state.

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Most books and EW analysts seem to ignore the rule of extension listed in Mastering Elliott Wave (i.e., the longest wave must be at least 161.8% of the next longest). Is this rule a requirement or just a preferred condition?

ANSWER:

This question addresses a core difference between Elliott Wave and NEoWave. Under R.N. Elliott’s original theory, there were only a few “never break” RULES (e.g., waves-2 and 4 could not share any of the same price range, except in “Diagonal Triangles” AND wave-3 could never be the shortest wave in an impulsion). Nearly all other concepts, including the rule of alternation (which I consider essential), is not enforced by orthodox Elliott Wave analysts. It is hoped for, but does not make or break a count. 

NEoWave’s logical structure is composed only of hard-and-fast rules, no “sometimes, maybe’s or guidelines.” If a market does not produce the specific, NEoWave behavior required, a different pattern is forming than thought. There are no exceptions to behavior under NEoWave. If the behavior isn’t present, something else is going on. 

So, for example, if you see a rally that looks like a “perfect” 1-2-3-4-5 advance (i.e., it contains no overlap between waves-2 and 4, it has “perfect” alternation between waves-2 and 4), BUT there is no extended wave, then that move is NOT impulsive. Under NEoWave it would be an unfinished, complex a-b-c-x-a-b-c corrective rally that still has to complete the final waves-b & c. 

The strict requirements of NEoWave pattern development create two, unique circumstances not present under Elliott Wave. When a market is near the beginning or end of a pattern, wave structure is clear, forecasting is easy and NEoWave allows for extremely detailed forecasts not possible with orthodox Elliott Wave. When toward the center of a pattern’s development, NEoWave’s inflexible nature and extensive rule set creates the exact opposite problem – the inability to predict what will occur next. 

Orthodox Elliott Wave, on the other hand, allows the analyst so much flexibility that it is possible to have an opinion nearly all the time. The cost of such flexibility is frequent inaccuracy. NEoWave allows one to know when it is safe to forecast and when it is dangerous. The “loose” nature of orthodox Elliott Wave does not allow such fine differentiation, which frequently gives the orthodox Elliott Wave analyst the false belief he can predict markets all the time.

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Given the similarity of price and time exhibited by each leg of a symmetrical, is that pattern more likely to drift sideways rather than trend up or down?

ANSWER:

From personal experience, the reverse is more common. Symmetricals are so time-consuming (relatively speaking) that it is nearly impossible for a market to hesitate long enough to complete the entire pattern during one, sideways period. As a result, Symmetricals tend to have a decided upward or downward bias. Initially, their “trendy” nature can make them difficult to identify. But, after a Symmetrical passes its halfway point, the extreme price/time similarities between all “same direction” waves makes it easy to determine one is forming.

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Why are NEoWave Hourly and Daily trades quoted in futures while Weekly trades are quoted in ETFs? Why not all the same?

ANSWER:

Each market trading vehicle (i.e., stocks, futures, options, ETFs) has its own, ideal, minimum/maximum time horizon for trading. Many stocks do not move enough to allow for low-risk, high-potential trades on hourly or daily charts. But, due to the leveraged nature of futures and options, small market moves can produce big gains, so they are ideal for short-term trading on hourly and daily charts. Options are extremely time and volatility sensitive, so they are best suited for intra-day chart trading. Futures work well on nearly any time frame below weekly, but because futures contracts expire usually within 1-3 months of becoming the most active contract, weekly chart may only experience 4-12 bars before the contract expires. Since non-leveraged ETF’s don’t expire, and most have extremely low holding costs, you can hold them indefinitely, which makes them ideal for Weekly, Monthly and Yearly chart trading. For the reasons listed above, all NEoWave Trading services quote futures for Hourly and Daily-based trades while the Weekly time-frame addresses ETF trading. At some point, if there is enough demand, I might direct NEoWave Hourly trades to the Options markets.

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You frequently talk as if trading can be profitable without forecasting…I’m confused.

ANSWER:

The best way to explain my position on markets, forecasting and trading is to make comparisons to what may seem like a completely different world – that of being lost in a jungle, paddling a small boat, in a river, with the goal of reaching the ocean. 

In such a scenario, does it make sense to “predict” which way the ocean is (north, south, east or west) so you can decide how to paddle? Clearly, such a strategy guarantees failure (i.e., you will eventually strike the edge of the river). The direction you paddle your boat currently has NOTHING to do with the direction a bird would fly to reach the ocean. Achieving your goal is completely separate from what you need to do moment-by-moment to safely navigate the river, avoiding rocks, waterfalls and sandbars. As long as you survive your voyage, the river will eventually “push” you to your destination (i.e., the ocean). 

After 20 years of struggling to reconcile the two, in 2001, I began to appreciate the “vast ocean” that separates the trading and forecasting worlds. “The Forecast,” I came to understand, had nothing to do with “The Trade.” From that realization came a paradigm shift in my thinking about markets, which was the beginning of the concepts that have evolved into NEELY RIVER trading technology (NRT). NRT constantly adapts to ever-changing market environments and conditions. Over the last 10 years, NRT has achieved a sophisticated level, enabling anyone to “navigate” markets as opposed to “forecasting” markets. NRT addresses how you should behave (not what the market should do) and how you should manage your trades, bar-by-bar, until the “flow of the market” takes you to your final destination (i.e., profits). 

After nearly 30 years of following, forecasting and trading markets, I’m confident Neely River is a “game changer” in the field of investing. In the near future, I’ll explain, in detail, what Neely River Theory is all about and how it substantially improves the trader’s ability to extract profits from a market.