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Japan’s stock market has been in decline for 20 years. Is there a chance the U.S. will experience a similarly long, bear market or economic contraction?

ANSWER:

In early 2000, right as the U.S. stock market was peaking, I predicted the Dow, S&P and Nasdaq would drop 50%, 60% and 70% (respectively) within a few years. All three forecasts came true within less than 2 years. The only way the U.S. stock market could have dropped so much so fast is if a major, impulsive rally had ended at 2000’s high (the longer-term evidence suggests that high was the end of a 3rd wave, so let’s call it Cycle Wave-III). 

Based on orthodox Elliott Wave, in a standard impulsion, no part of wave-4 can share any of the price range of wave-2. Adding to that foundation, NEoWave tells us wave-4 must also take more time than wave-3, but normally not much more than 161.8% of its time. Plus, wave-4 must retrace at least 33% of the price rally of wave-3 and produce a decline larger than any seen during the formation of wave-3. So, the minute the S&P retraced more than 33% of wave-III and dropped more (%-wise) than any correction within wave-III, the start of wave-IV was confirmed.

We know wave-III consumed 18 years, so simply “applying the rules” listed above, it was easy to “predict” wave-IV in the S&P would bottom ABOVE 400 (its low so far is 666 in March 2009) and that it would last at least 18 years. Rounding off the time consumed by wave-III, in early 2000, right as the bear market was starting, I stated wave-IV would last 20 years or more. Calculating 161.8% of the time of wave-III we get 29 years; as a result, standard NEoWave rules allow me to confidently state (not predict, because these are requirements of wave structure, not opinions) that wave-IV will last between 20 and 30 years. Since wave-IV began in 2000, it will not end until 2020, but could drag on until 2030!

So, clearly, the answer to your question is YES – the U.S. will experience at least another 10 years of economic contraction or stagnation, with our bear market eventually rivaling the duration of that which Japan has already experienced following their 1990 stock market top.

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Recently, the wave structure in your Forecasting service was different than that in your Trading Service. Why?

ANSWER:

Each NEoWave service is on a different release schedule. When I work on a new update, I’m using the latest data available, which will be different from the data used the prior day or prior week. For example, the Forecasting service is released Monday mornings; two days later, Trading updates are released. The new data available on Wednesday might alter – or force me to change – past wave structure and expectations, possibly causing Monday’s Forecasting service to be out-of-sync with Wednesday’s Trading service. 

Another reason two chart’s may not agree “structurally” is due to the simplification of data that occurs as you move from a smaller to a larger time frame. The high/low data used to create Weekly charts is approximately 1/5 as complex as the high/low data used to create Daily charts. With a reduction in complexity comes a simplification of wave structure. That simplification frequently produces a different perspective on “reality” than the more detailed data series. As a result, the wave count on a Weekly chart may not exactly match or coordinate with the wave count of a Daily chart of the same market, even if both charts are updated and analyzed the same day.

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From the high in 2000, you’ve long said wave-4 would last about 20 years, but Wave 2 is only seven years. How did you determine this time frame for wave-4?

ANSWER:

In standard, trending impulsions, the time of wave-2 must equal or exceed that of wave-1. In addition, wave-4 must also equal or exceed the time of wave-3. Since it appears a 5th extension, standard impulsion began at the low in 1982, I simply measured the time of wave-3 (which was 18 years – from 1982 to 2000) and assumed wave-4 would take that much time or more. 

Under different wave structure circumstances, wave-4 might take far more time than wave-3, but with wave-2 already much smaller (just 7 years), the rule of alternation had to be taken into account along with the concepts of degree and similarity. To avoid wave-4 being too larger in relation to wave-2 (in time), I opted for the shortest allowed time-frame for wave-4 (i.e., 18-years, and just rounded up to an even 2 decades).

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How does your analysis differ from orthodox Elliott Wave analyst’s who, once again, are predicting a depression and a Dow down to 400?

ANSWER:

NEoWave has been telling me the same thing for more than 2 decades…an impulsive advance began in 1982. Wave-4 (down) of that impulsion commenced September 2000 and will last about 20 years, maybe more. Wave-5 of this 70-80 year bull market will start around the year 2020 and produce the most powerful advance in history. The DOW will easily exceed 100,000 (potentially 200,000) by or before the year 2065! If you look in the back of MASTERING ELLIOTT WAVE, there is an article written for CYCLES magazine in the summer of 1988 which maps out this exact, same scenario. In other words, I’ve had the same, long-term perspective on the U.S. stock market for 22 years!

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Is Chapter 3 of Mastering Elliott Wave important or necessary for those who are already experienced with wave analysis?

ANSWER:

That depends on where you gained your experience. If it came from the orthodox philosophy of wave pattern development, then Chapter 3 will be essential to your mental transition to a more logical process of wave analysis. 

Chapter 3 was designed to take a complete neophyte by the hand, step-by-step, through a logical process of marking the internal structure of a monowave (or wave segment) as corrective or impulsive. It is perfect for those early in their NEoWave education process (or for those who have converted from the orthodox Elliott Wave camp and need “retraining”). 

Application of the rules in Chapter 3 makes sure you do not break major behavior concepts (much of it based on vector physics). If you do not yet get the “logic” of NEoWave, I recommend you continue to work with Chapter 3 until that “logic” is understood. 

With years of practice, eventually the internal, structure identification process described in Chapter 3 becomes second nature and no longer requires the detailed steps outlined in that chapter.

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In your Trading updates you use more than just wave theory to do market analysis and trading. How do you decide what type of analysis to use and when?

ANSWER:

This is one of the most important questions I’ve ever been asked in this forum and is a concept every professional trader should understand. The value and attention I place on various forms of market analysis changes with time and is directly tied to which phase of price development a market is in. 

In a recent interview I discussed the 3 stages of clarity all wave patterns experience. The early and late phases of a pattern’s development I categorize as “specifically predictable.” That is when wave theory is most useful for prediction and trading. As a market moves into wave-B or wave-2 of a pattern, the “general” phase of predictability begins. At that time, one must simply be satisfied with the ability to predict general market direction. Near the center of a large, complex formation (especially during corrections), one may not be able to predict any market action no matter what form of analysis is employed. 

As a result, from nearly 30 years of watching markets, I have developed a method of dealing with each phase of a pattern’s development. Below is my checklist depending on whether a market is in its specific, general or unpredictable phase of development. 

SPECIFICALLY PREDICTABLE PHASE 

(during wave-1 or wave-5 of an impulsion OR the first and last leg of a correction)

This is the best time to put your full faith and trust in wave structure, ignore the news, ignore your friends, the papers, and do what wave theory suggests. At the very beginning of a new trend, or the very end of an old trend, there is virtually no need for anything other than wave theory to predict and trade a market and place stops and project targets. 

GENERALLY PREDICTABLE PHASE

(during wave-2 or 4 of an impulsion OR the second and second-to-last leg of a correction)

This is when other forms of trend analysis become useful (I use my proprietary MOAT index, but any “trend following” analysis could work or at least help). Once a trade is taken, an approach to stop placement and movement becomes necessary since wave theory is not always clear enough to place appropriate stops. Neely River technology plays an important part in my updates during this phase of a market’s development. When wave structure is not clear enough to provide useful levels, it is the best approach I know for placing stops, moving stops and exiting positions

UNPREDICTABLE PHASE

(during wave-3 of an impulsion OR the middle portion of all corrections)

Virtually no form of analysis helps or works during this phase of a pattern’s development. For that reason, I try to resist forecasting during this phase and try to keep trading to a minimum. But, realize, during this period, a market will “tease” you with possible market termination points that turn out to be wrong, sometimes over and over. The larger the pattern, the more times you may be “tricked” into thinking a top or bottom is forming (my forecasts and trades in the S&P 500 from June 2009 until March 2010 are a testament to the problems and difficulties created during the unpredictable phase of a market’s development). The most important thing you can do during the unpredictable phase, if you are going to trade, is keep risk very low (1% of capital or less, which is what I’ve been doing in my NEoWave Trading service for the last year or more).