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Many orthodox Elliott Wave analysts believe we are in a secular bear market and that the Dow Jones Industrial average will bottom near its 1920s bull market top (i.e., 400). Do you agree?

ANSWER:

For nearly 25 years my long-term stock market perspective has been at odds with that of orthodox Elliott Wave analysts. It began in mid/late 1987 when I turned very bearish on the Dow, expecting a 38% market decline in just three months off the high. Turns out, nearly 90% of that bear market occurred in 1 day (from top to bottom the bear market took less than 2 months), but it did produce a decline of the magnitude expected. Where I really began to diverge from the orthodox Elliott Wave camp was when I turned “wildly” bullish in mid/late 1988 (see CYCLES magazine, the Sep/Oct 1988 issue where I revealed my 73 year stock market forecast, complete with a prediction the 1987 stock market low would not be broken for the rest of my life and that the Dow would exceed 100,000 by the year 2060)! Not only had such a long-term and specific stock market forecast never been attempted before, but it is the ONLY forecast made in that era by anyone that is still coming true today and still has 50 years to go! 

In the mid and late 1990’s, while nearly every Elliott Wave analyst was bearish, I was calling for a powerful continuation of the advance. Finally, on September 5, 2000 (which under wave theory was the actual day the bear market began), I told my subscribers the bull market was over. I remained bearish on the Dow until early 2003, at which time I proclaimed the bear market was over and that a 5+ year bull market – pushing the Dow and S&P back above their 2000 highs – was underway. At the same time, nearly all orthodox Elliott Wave analysts were calling for a major stock market crash, a deflationary depression, social upheaval, possibly nuclear war, etc. Finally, in late 2007, for the first time in nearly my whole career, I and many orthodox Elliott Wave analysts were finally in agreement, calling for a major bear market and a retest or break of the 2002 low. 

Sometime in 2009 or 2010, with the S&P around 500 and the Dow around 5,000, I will once again be a major odds with the orthodox Elliott Wave camp (and most likely the rest of the analytical world – just like in 1987) when I say the bear market has bottomed and that the 2009-2010 lows will not be broken for at least 50 years! 

So, to answer your question, NO I do not agree with the scenario that the Dow will return to 400 or that the stock market will fall more than 90% off it highs. As I have said many times in the past, the wave count that produces that scenario is flawed and has been flawed for the last 25 years, which is why most Elliott Wave analysts keep getting the major market turns wrong. My logical, scientific NEoWave approach allows for more accurate, unemotional and objective wave counting that tends to be right a far greater number of times than is possible with orthodox Elliott Wave techniques.

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When you have a diametric formation, and wave “G” has finished, what can be expected afterward (price and time)?

ANSWER:

This is a “high level” question, so if you are not serious about wave theory, don’t continue. 

The post-pattern action following a Diametric is not dependent on the Diametric itself (as with most other wave formations), but relies on the larger pattern the Diametric concludes. For example, did the Diametric end wave-A of a larger Flat or Triangle; was it wave-2, wave-4, wave-x, etc. 

In order of priority, these are the things you can expect following wave-G of a Diametric. The wave right after wave-G will be larger and faster than any “same direction” leg that occurred during wave-G. Next, if that post-G-wave is also larger and faster than waves-B, D and F within the Diametric, then the Diametric ends a single leg of a larger formation. 

If the move after wave-G is not larger and faster than waves-B, D and F, then an X-wave is probably forming. Otherwise, the Diametric will be one leg of a larger, ongoing pattern OR it will be wave-1 or 3 of a Terminal formation.

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Since Triangles occur frequently, but are often misinterpreted, what clues exist (early on) to tell us a Triangle is, or is not, forming?

ANSWER:

Whether a Flat, Zigzag, Triangle, Diametric or Symmetrical is forming can only be determined (well in advance) by employing advanced NEoWave observations which focus on the price, time and complexity development between waves-A and B. 

Under NEoWave rules, a Flat or Zigzag is possible only IF wave-B takes the same amount of time or more as wave-A (wave-B will usually consume much more time in Flats than it will in Zigzags). If wave-B takes less time than wave-A, a Triangle, Diametric or Symmetrical is forming.

In all expanding and contracting Triangles, wave-A will be the most violent segment of the formation, even if it is the smallest in price (i.e., it should cover the most price in the least time from high to low, or from low to high). If this rule is not met, a Neutral Triangle is forming OR another non-Triangle pattern is underway. 

If wave-B is around 38.2% of wave-A, it must take less time than wave-A to be part of a NEoWave Neutral Triangle. As a result, in any A-B sequence where wave-B is around 38.2% of wave-A in price, but takes MORE time than wave-A, a Zigzag is forming, not a Neutral Triangle. As wave-B approaches 61.8% of the price of wave-A, the time it consumes will increase. As it does, wave-B may equal the time of wave-A, but if it is less, only a Triangle, Diametric or Symmetrical is possible. As wave-B exceeds 61.8% of wave-A, it normally will take more time than wave-A; if it takes less, a Triangle, Diametric or Symmetrical is forming OR the rally you are calling wave-B is just smaller wave-a of larger wave-B. 

In general, NEoWave theory tells us that the more SIMILARITY there is in price, time and complexity between adjacent waves of the same pattern, the greater the odds a NEoWave Symmetrical is forming. If time and complexity similarity exists between most of the waves, but not price similarity, a NEoWave Diametric is forming. If complexity is similar throughout, but not time and price, a Triangle is probably forming. If vast time, price and complexity differences exist between three adjacent wave segments, a Zigzag is forming. If vast time and complexity differences exist, but price coverage is about the same among three adjacent waves, a Flat is forming.

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What percentage of profitable trades must one have to be considered successful and intelligent?

ANSWER:

The percentage of profitable trades does not determine the success of a trading year, the net profit or loss does. For example, let’s suppose commission is $10 per trade and, because you hate to lose money, you employ breakeven stops on every trade as soon as possible. After 51 weeks of trading, the record shows you entered and exited 99 trades at the same price. Your total loss, after your 99th trade, would be “commission only” in the sum of $990 ($10 x 99). But, on the last week of the year, you take your 100 trade. This time, your “breakeven” stop is not hit and the market moves substantially in your favor over the next 5 days, making you $5000 on one position (from which you subtract $10 for commission). Your success rate is only 1%, but your profit for the year is $4000. Is that a successful year? Was losing $10 on 99 trades in-a-row intelligent?

If your goal is to appear “intelligent” to your friends, it shifts focus away from risk management and toward ego satiation. When your goal is to “be right” instead of “making a profit,” your bank account will usually suffer before your ego is satisfied and before your friends are impressed. You need to ask yourself “are you involved in the markets to look intelligent to your friends, or is your focus making money”? Paradoxically, for most trades to be successful, the majority of your friends must think you are crazy (not intelligent) when the trade is initiated. Being on the side of the minority is an essential element in the success of most trades, so the “intelligent” part only occurs when the trade is over and you’ve made a nice profit. 

It is my experience that most people follow and trade markets to impress their friends and family, or to have something to do and talk about, more than to make money. Until trading becomes solely about making money (not about being right and not about excitement or staying busy), your bottom-line will suffer.

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When plotting wave charts (as described in Chapter 2 of MEW), what happens if the high or low of the day, week or month occur twice (e.g., a low occurs March 1 and then March 31)?

ANSWER:

No matter what time frames you follow (hourly, daily, weekly, monthly, etc), you have only two ways to plot them. If the high or low clearly came first and the trend for that period is basically one directional, then you simply plot the high and low in the order they occurred. 

If a high or low occurred twice (or nearly twice) in a month (I’m using a month to make it easy to understand), then you need to examine price action to see which order will produce the most accurate representation of that month’s price action. For example, if Gold bottomed at $400 last month, then $401 the 1st of the new month, rallied to $500, then dropped back to $405 the last day of the month, plotting $401 first doesn’t help much since it basically repeats the already-plotted low at $400. So, in this situation, plot $500 first and $405 second.

On rare occasions, if it is the only way to accurately represent price action produced by the market, you could consider triple plotting (which means 3 data point combinations – either Hi-Lo-Hi or Lo-Hi-Lo). If you triple-plot, make sure all three plots occur within the time span normally reserved for two data points. NOTE’ You should never attempt to plot 4 data points within one time frame.

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Elliott wave worked well in the 80’s, now its accuracy is disappointing. NEoWave works great today, but how can we be sure it will work well 20 years from now?

ANSWER:

This is one of the most important questions ever asked in this forum and strikes at the core differences between Elliott Wave and NEoWave. 

Elliott Wave is a concept “locked in time,” similar to (but not exactly the same) as curve-fitting a mechanical trading system. By focusing on Fibonacci relationships, with the assumption markets “should” adhere to them, and by using a static, limited group of standardized patterns, the analyst is unable to adapt to the increasingly complex trading world (which probably began with the introduction of computerized analysis and trading systems in the 1990’s). 

On the other hand, the core foundation of NEoWave is LOGIC, not Fibonacci relationships and not the subjective identification of standardized wave patterns. Instead of attempting to force the market to fit a predesigned template, NEoWave is an “after the fact,” observational process of logical induction, deduction and logical behavior. 

For example, if the concept of degree is to have any meaning, it is illogical to have a smaller degree pattern consume more price and more time than a larger degree pattern BUT I see orthodox Elliott Wave analysts constantly break this rule. As a result, their counts must change all the time. As another example, it makes no sense for a correction to stretch upward if the future uptrend is weak (you might need to think about that for a second), BUT I see orthodox Elliott Wave analysts constantly show running corrections followed by advances that are smaller than previous advances. It is also common to see orthodox Elliott Wave analysts produce multiple levels of interlocking 1’s and 2’s of smaller and smaller degree, with no attention paid to the fact the smaller patterns are subdividing more than the larger patterns. 

So, how do I know NEoWave will work for the next 20 years and beyond? Because it is not a complete, static theory, but a constantly evolving phenomenon that does not predefine or pre-suppose future reality. It does not “force” a perspective on the markets, but lets the markets (through logical deduction of behavior) define their own future and their own reality.